scott386  RLC™# 31282

I liked Joe's post on the "moderation" thread...

I understand the need to keep members from bashing one another— but really— a topic titled "Who's up for an account moderation?"

As someone with his own Articles, that says a lot about the BS going on here lately. The last guy to post on there said about the same thing... and was edited. Go figure.

nomad200  RLC™# 47901

I need to get my crum_a account signed back up so that I have a spare for any pending moderation. Feeling uncool and left out with so many of you receiving detention these days.

armataz  RLC™# 1903

I got a PM from one of my Mattel buddies, saying that I'm applying too much pressure to the upper management of the club (whoever that is) and should back off a little and let the boards calm down.

So last night I posted a new thread to dig my heels in deeper. Anyway, who should appear on it other then the supposedly banned Rex Manico.

What's up with that? He hunts Mantis and picked fights with him (as well as others, such as myself), yet he's already back online. And Tom and Mike are still locked in PM's. Yeah, thats fair and equal punishment.

nomad, if you sign in under crum_a while suspended, they will remove you completely from the site.

nomad200  RLC™# 47901

Taz-- Tom talked with HWC Mark and got him to lift his Moderation on the crum_a account. I'm just waiting for that dumb Taxi Bus to come around for some unknown reason.

Hey did you see the Cruzinrod had a person volunteer to be moderated in protest of his attitude? Too funny. Evidently we are organized as well. "The Hot Wheels Mafia". I just wanted to let you guys know that I'm seriously pissed that you have been having meetings behind my back.

quantum  RLC™# 34272

Tom – nice work as always.

Everyone – what did you expect? They want fawning sycophants; they convince the fence-straddlers that everything is ok. What's left is the hardcore minority freethinkers that know what the REAL story is.

Best thing is to know the deal: Mattel is here to make money, not friends. This entire site is dedicated to selling, not "keeping the HWs dream alive" or whatever other nonsensical spin gets put on it.

armataz  RLC™# 1903

Roger's ranting:

The feud was organized in some manner.
The feud was continuing without the primary combatants participation.
We had no idea who all was participating or ready to participate in the feud.

claims it was some sort of conspiracy. Guess he was not noticing that every time Mike posted, Rex followed him to carry on or pick a new fight, or he'd post a thread with hostile text to encourage others to challenge him.

bbussey  RLC™# 348

They had already handled the situation, via posts and via moderation of various members. Yet they chose to pick at the scab by posting that arrogant haughty thread asking if people want to be moderated.

Simply Beyond Stupid.

With the sh!t product they are putting out this year coupled with the lack of communication, and the escalating blowback they are receiving from that, you'd think that someone over there would have at least an ounce of realization that maybe the increase in "feuds" might be a result of their incompetence? But no, they think that being Mattel shields them from customer blowback and the worst recession in two generations.

36ford  RLC™# 16448

I agree with you 100%. And the arrogance of that post to tell them if we want to be moderated was beyond anything I've ever seen. I am very disheartened by the whole thing. And I doubt, as you do, that they will ever take responsibility for any of what is going on. I am very glad that the A-OK sales were way down. I will not buy anything anymore that isn't 110% what I'm looking for. Obviously they don't want to hear anything that isn't a slap on the back and an atta boy. I give that when it's earned, not for every piece of whatever they slap their brand on.

PLAYINGMANTIS  RLC™# 15826

My expectations for the quality of club pieces has not changed since day one and I'm sure everyone here expects more for their money.

Taz had been warning us of the little things that were changing almost as they were happening. Trying to be the voice of reason hasn't worked.

Without using the economy as an excuse, why do you think they're lowering the standards? The bigger question is what made them think it would be acceptable to do so?

scott386  RLC™# 31282

Just read Roger's thread...
The fact that more people said "YES" is also too funny. He's made a bigger deal out of this than it really is.

nomad200  RLC™# 47901

Armed Rebellion sounds a bit violent and I'd probably miss out on some ski days so how about:

1. Create a satirical website that is a parody of the Red Line Club... nope, been done.

2. Form a "vocal minority" and protest everything that the young masses want. Nope, some guy named Rex says that's been done as well.

3. We could tell them to stick their poorly designed Hot Wheels some place where the sun doesn't shine. Damn. That's been done, too.

Armed Rebellion it is. Count me in.

clamjuice  RLC™# 35801

I'm for whatever we decide to do. Strength in numbers.

I've been calling out Mattel for a few years now; I'm glad to see others fueling the fire. I felt alone for awhile, and figured it was just because I was outspoken.

scott386  RLC™# 31282

Don't worry, clamjuice... this is our new board. 

bbussey  RLC™# 348

You weren't alone. All of us here, and others as well, have spoken out at one time or another. It's just that it is more obvious now because of their poor performance and so many members speaking up at once.

At this point, my feeling is that they can't crash fast enough. The only Hot Wheels anything that I absolutely buy are the Neo-Classics type vehicles, and I've been that way for at least the last three years. But if they continue to tread the path they are on, I'll stop buying them as well. I have no problem seeing this venture end if they continue to push out crap.

armataz  RLC™# 1903

Don't know how many times I've said much the same over the years, BB. I got my biggest knock when Mark said he had little to do with this year's cars beyond choosing the castings, then his replacement (Ryan) also claimed he would have little say because most the cars were already done before he came on board. So both Mark and Ryan are refusing responsibility for this line, and yet we are told to believe on blind faith that they want to make things better.

Which way to the special Kool-aid?

nomad200  RLC™# 47901

I have to agree with everything that you guys have been saying. I think one of the main problems is the constant rotation/promotion of employees. Each guy wants to come in and make his mark. They know that they won't be here long and therefore the easiest way for them to improve the quarterly cash flow is to cut costs/corners. By the time the backlash hits, they have moved on. They will be pushing Barbie dolls when next year's membership numbers show up and are much lower.

I'm all for not posting anything on the boards until Scott, Tom, and whoever else is back in the fray.

redryder31  HWC™# 22294

The fact that no one wants to "man up" and take responsibility for the miscues, mistakes and blatant, dare I say, lies, really speaks volumes about the current "HWC management".

As for Roger's "you want to be moderated" post, well, I think it was in poor taste and showed a lack of good judgement on his part. HWC Gary should have yanked it; instead he patted him on the back.

PLAYINGMANTIS  RLC™# 15826

Although I am no longer moderated I refuse to post on the boards until the casualties of this war have been made whole. Never believe for a minute that this was anything except an opportunity for the emporor to convince you that he's truly wearing clothes.

quantum  RLC™# 34272

I'd be willing to give guys like Bryan, Mark, Ryan, and the other thousand sock puppets a pass only because it's someone higher up that's shooting down every idea that doesn't squeeze blood from a rock (ie, the cash from our pockets).

You know you've hit rock bottom when hwphatz34 PMs you to tell you he agrees with you.

PLAYINGMANTIS  RLC™# 15826

Thank You Tom for all you bring to this club. I hope your silence only means that you're working on something good. Now is the time to let your creative juices flow and post with reckless abandon. Just continue to tell the TRUTH. Now is not the time to take Ryan's approach and fade away. Speak man, speak!

nspo  RLC™# 18673

My silence is just because I'm trying to get the Hot Wheels™ out of my brain.

nomad200  RLC™# 47901

Now I've been called out by Cruzindick. I have to sign-on as nomad200 to access this PM and I have occasionally forgotten to sign-out and back in under crum_a so that I can post. Even though the Nomad account is in my son's name (and he actually looks at the site with it) Cruzindick PM'd me and said that he was placing that account under moderation because I was posting with two accounts. It does make me wonder if they are reading this PM because I mentioned re-upping the crum_a account. I thought about replying back to see if he could check and see if Rex is doing the same thing.

scott386  RLC™# 31282

How is he gonna shut everybody up? Moderate everybody and lock every thread?

I'm pretty sure they are reading this, too. I wouldn't be surprised... I almost wish they'd say something about this thread.

PLAYINGMANTIS  RLC™# 15826

Can they read These PM's? That would just be wrong if they were set up to do that.

quantum  RLC™# 34272

I 'd be willing to bet the Mods don't have access to PM threads, but the Admins do.

I personally don't care, but not everyone's an anarchist like me.

You say you addressed my issue with the lack of Torsion-Bar Suspension in the Neo-Classics when I "complained?" It took four months to get an official response of any kind, and you still have not clarified when TBS will be used and when straight axles will be used in Neos-type offerings. The "suspension issue" was addressed? It took six years for that. Both actions came after major continuous objections were posted on the boards, which escalated due to the administrative silence.

The fact that these are collectibles does not mean certain features are not supposed to function. While the irony in that statement is that the $1 cars are supposed to function but the $20 cars are not... who said anything about "playing" with them?

The frustration here is due to the product not living up to previous billing. The models are supposed to be manufactured based on original Redline-era ideals. Your response implies that you believe this is just about people crying because their petty complaints aren't being responded to – and that's a shame, because most of these posts are trying to point out what is needed to get back on course.

The primary point in most of these posts is that there needs to be more communication, especially when unexpected events happen, rather than complaints about your product choices. They are trying to help you, and yet you see them as baseless attacks.

AND – don't keep saying some form of "If you don't like it, don't buy it" like it's gospel and then accuse the members of collusion when the majority of them follow your advice.

scott386  RLC™# 31282

Translation: Just buy this crap.

That's what it sounds like to me, we'll get what we get.

36ford  RLC™# 16448

It's what I've been saying for some time:

Like it or lump it. Let them eat cake. The public be damned. It is what it is. Your concern has been read and noted.

It would appear there is a lack of caring on their part. Anyone agree?

PLAYINGMANTIS  RLC™# 15826

I find it simply amazing that they're telling us that these cars are meant to be kept in the package because they are collectibles. I guess that answers a lot of questions. Obviously it's our fault if we open them, and quality standards don't have to be implemented because they weren't supposed to be opened in the first place.

redryder31  HWC™# 22294

Wow. "These are Collectibles and not to be played with."

That is some attitude.

scott386  RLC™# 31282

Is HWC Chris just as bad as the others with his "not meant for track sets" comment? Almost wish I could post just to get moderated again.

armataz  RLC™# 1903

No, I dont think so... like he said, he was just repeating what has been printed on the back of every HWC package since the beginning. I think mainly he's just ticked at BB for riding them.

Me, they just tend to ignore or remove offending threads. I guess to avoid my reply.

scott386  RLC™# 31282

What mod approved Tom's trumpet pic?

Originally posted by eggman90:
We are all so deaf from the silence it would sound like golden trumpets at this point.

Hot Wheels: The most with-it metal cars On The Road!

nomad200  RLC™# 47901

I guess they just figured that it was his best attempt at behaving.

I bet Chris lays down at night and curses the whole lot of us.

scott386  RLC™# 31282

Tinkrsup is stirring the pot... He doesn't want to join our group. But I guess he'll be next.

This place is going downhill faster that we thought. Just locking the threads isn't enough any more; now we must be shut up.

nomad200  RLC™# 47901

Tink started a thread asking if members felt that Cruzinrod needed to moderate himself due to his abusive and condescending tone. The actual post was a lot longer. As you can imagine, it didn't last long and I'm sure he received a vacation in Hot Wheels' Purgatory for stirring the pot again.

scott386  RLC™# 31282

I'm sure he received a vacation in Hot Wheels' Purgatory

What Alan said... Although-- I'm having more fun being moderated.